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Justice League director Zack Snyder seemingly reveals his unused plans for Robin in the DCEU

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Jul 31, 2018

Despite its films' hit-or-miss box office and critical performance, the DCEU continues to fire up lively discussions among movie and comic book fans on social media. The latest debate revolves around the Robin costume we saw in Zack Snyder's Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice.

While walking around the Batcave, a surly and sad-looking Bruce Wayne (Ben Affleck) comes across the suit of his old partner sitting in a glass case, its chest spray-painted with the words: "Ha Ha Ha. Joke's on you, Batman." Even casual observers to the DC Universe know this is a clever little Easter egg hinting to the Caped Crusader's former clashes with the Clown Prince of Crime, one of which ended in the death of Robin.

At the time of the film's release, Snyder was quoted as saying:

“In my mind it was that Robin had died about 10 years earlier in some run-in with a young Joker. So that was an interesting thing to me. Sorta a fun backstory to play with.”

On the social media platform Vero, Omer Kamal of ComicBook Debate asked whether or not it was Jason Todd (the second incarnation of Robin), who had been killed. In response, director Zack Snyder wrote one word: "Richard," seemingly indicating that the version of Robin who died before the events of BvS, was, in fact, Richard "Dick" Grayson, the original iteration of Batman's famous sidekick, and the first DC character to assume the title of Nightwing.

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This could mean that Jason Todd, wherever he is in the DCEU, is still alive, but that's not important because he was never involved in Snyder's plans for Robin. When asked by another user, Sam Leggett, if he was going to bring Grayson back via the plot of the standalone Flashpoint movie or keep him dead, Snyder replied with: "stay dead...till Carrie."

Astute comic book fans may deduce that Snyder had hoped to introduce Carrie Kelley, the first full-time female Robin in history. Created by Frank Miller, Carrie made her debut in the writer's seminal graphic novel Batman: The Dark Knight Returns #1 in 1986. A schoolgirl with neglectful parents, Carrie's life was saved by an elderly Batman and, inspired by his heroism, she became his partner after returning the favor. Nevertheless, the Caped Crusader nearly dismissed her on a number of occasions when she failed to follow certain orders out in the field. 

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At the end of the day, we'll never see Snyder's finished plans for the DC Extended Universe — not to mention the rumored #SnyderCut of Justice League anytime soon, should it even exist at all. 

However, while we're on the subject of Carrie Kelley, Frank Miller's recently signed, five-project deal with DC includes a spinoff comic for the female Robin. Illustrations for this title will be handled by by Ben Caldwell, so stay tuned for that.


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