She-Hulk's legendary co-creator has responded to the writer who recently branded her a "giant green porn star."
Word got out yesterday, via the efforts of The Mary Sue, that Man of Steel writer and Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice (I'm already exhausted just typing that) co-writer David Goyer recently made some remarks about Marvel Comics superheroine Jennifer Walters, aka She-Hulk, that are at best provocative and at worst downright infuriating. Just in case you weren't around for the all the hubbub yesterday, let's take a look one more time at what Goyer said during a recent live taping of the Scriptnotes Podcast.
"I have a theory about She-Hulk. Which was created by a man, right? And at the time in particular I think 95% of comic book readers were men and certainly almost all of the comic book writers were men. So the Hulk was this classic male power fantasy. It’s like, most of the people reading comic books were these people like me who were just these little kids getting the s--t kicked out of them every day … And so then they created She-Huk, right? Who was still smart … I think She-Hulk is the chick that you could #$%@ if you were Hulk, you know what I’m saying? … She-Hulk was the extension of the male power fantasy. So it’s like if I’m going to be this geek who becomes the Hulk then let’s create a giant green porn star that only the Hulk could #$%@."
The Internet, needless to say, was not pleased, and rebuttals to Goyer's remarks have since been issued (quite articulately) by everyone from Washington Post columnist Alyssa Rosenberg to longtime Marvel and DC Comics writer Gerry Conway. Now one of She-Hulk's co-creators, the legendary Stan "The Man" Lee (who's also credited with co-creating, you know, most of the Marvel Universe as we know it), is also weighing in.
Speaking to Washington Post Comic Riffs blogger Michael Cavna, Lee -- who co-created Jennifer Walters with artist John Buscema in 1980 -- first reflected on the origins of the character in his mind. According to him, they were specifically out to craft a smart female hero who also had Hulk's brute strength, though it's also been said many times that She-Hulk was devised in an effort to undercut any attempt by the Incredible Hulk TV series to create a female version of Bruce Banner first.
“I know I was looking for a new female superhero, and the idea of an intelligent Hulk-type grabbed me," Lee said.
Then Lee got down to the business of addressing Goyer's claims that She-Hulk is an "extension of the male power fantasy," the woman Hulk can have sex with. It's already been pointed out many times that Bruce and Jennifer are cousins, and therefore wouldn't ever have a sexual relationship, but Lee's response to Goyer's remarks skipped breaking down the logic and just got to the blunt point.
“Never for an instant did I want her as a love interest for Hulk,” Lee said. “Only a nut would even think of that.”
As for the idea that comic-book readers might find She-Hulk sexy, Lee's not surprised, but he also doesn't think it's extraordinary.
“As for her looking beautiful and curvy, show me the superheroine who isn’t," Lee said.
So arguably the most famous person in the history of the comic-book medium has just rebutted Goyer's comments by branding him a "nut." Excelsior!