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Venom director Ruben Fleischer says he laid the groundwork for a future Spider-Man crossover

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Sep 28, 2018, 12:05 PM EDT (Updated)

Sony's upcoming Venom movie is meant to kick off a Spidey-centric Marvel Cinematic Universe for the studio.

With that in mind, many of us were hoping for an appearance from Tom Holland's Peter Parker, even if it meant a tiny cameo from the Homecoming star. Sadly, those of you still holding out hope may be disappointed due to some curious comments from Venom's director, Ruben Fleischer (Zombieland). 

"I think we laid the groundwork in this film for a pretty fun match-up in the future so I think that'll be a really exciting story to explore, but I'd be lying if I didn't say I'd love to see him face-off against Spider-Man at some point," Fleischer told ScreenRant. "It feels like that's inevitable and I know that Tom Holland's excited about it, and I know that Tom Hardy's excited about it so it's just a question of when and where, I guess. That seems like the natural evolution."

Of course, the filmmaker could be bending the truth a little, so as not to spoil a Spider-Man cameo, which would be a big deal for the movie and ticket purchasers. But we're inclined to conclude that while Spider-Man definitely exists in this universe, he doesn't "exist" in Venom. Who knows, maybe we'll get a 30-to-45-second post-credits sequence alluding to the Symbiotic antihero's relationship with New York's friendly neighborhood web-slinger.  

We'll only get definitive answers when the movie drops next Friday. In the meantime, enjoy this new clip of Eddie Brock (Tom Hardy) beating up a bunch of Carlton Drake's thugs.

So, yeah, Spidey can easily flit between the MCU and Sony's universe, but can Venom do the same?

"I don't know about that," Fleischer added. "I do know that we want to see these character interact. As to the semantics as to where it takes place it's not for me to decide but it feels like there's a way everyone can co-exist in it in a satisfying way."

The real question is whether or not Sony's sandbox is set in the same one as Disney's. Right now, the concensus is that it is and it isn't—something of a Schrödinger's Marvel film, if you will. If we had to guess, we'd say that Sony can only pick and choose those MCU elements that fit best into its Spider-Man plans. As a result, they have Tom Holland, but not Thanos, Adrien Toomes (aka The Vulture), but not Tony Stark. 

Confused? So are we. This will need to be clarified before Sony begins to branch off even more. 

Venom arrives in theaters everywhere on Oct. 5.