Watch: Kingpin writer Matthew Rosenberg explains what makes Wilson Fisk so compelling

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May 4, 2017, 4:00 PM EDT

I sat in a weird, white room with comic scribe (and fellow former Forbidden Planet comic slinger) Matthew Rosenberg for a solid hour. Yesterday, you saw us talk about Rocket Raccoon and what makes his time in New York fun. Today, we're talking about a real New York native: Wilson Fisk, aka The Kingpin.

Kingpin has gone through a lot over the years. He may have started out as Stan Lee's bombastic take on a New York City godfather, but he's become a much more complex villain in recent years. Kingpin was even in exile from New York for a time, but now that he's back, he's turned over a new leaf.

Sort of.

Rosenberg's take on the character brings him in contact with an alcoholic mom and former Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist, Sarah Dewey. Fisk wants to write a book about his life and come clean about what he's done ... but, of course, Kingpin gonna Kingpin, so the reality is much more complicated than all that.

Here's Matt talking about what makes the Kingpin such a joy to write.